If you are ever in midtown Manhattan at 55th & 8th ave… be sure NOT to stop at the local liquor store…. Westerly Liquor …
$211 for CEHT Small Batch? $200 for Stagg Jr? Seriously?
Lynnway Liquor at 702 Lynnway in Lynn, MA 01905.
Take a look at some of these bottles… total unicorns, but the prices are way above secondary. The owner wasn’t in to discuss, but his employees were pretty obnoxious and misinformed about them. On the other side, maybe they were just the owner’s collection and he was showing off.
On the main shelf had quite a few good things at reasonable prices including Stagg Jr under $50 (most of MA has great deals on Stagg Jr for some reason), Jos. Magnus, Barrell Bourbon… But in the cabinet along with some unicorns was Michters 10… they also overpriced Weller…
When I peered into the owners office and saw three bottles of Weller CYPB. Three! The employee was pretty annoying about it, wouldn’t call the owner.. there was also a ton of EHT Barrel Proof and some other stuff. Always annoying.
Anyway… If I’m ever up there again I will stop by this store and hope the owner is in to talk… but I’m not paying 5k for some old Black Maple Hill nonsense…
Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Today I’m very thankful for my healthy family, my job and my bourbon collection. My wife is less thankful about my Bourbon hobby and I jotted down the top 21 issues we have… My hope is that this will provide some comfort, laughs and solidarity with those who are going through the same problems. Everyone likes to know that they aren’t the only ones with these issues… if I forgot any, add them in the comments! Thank you for reading. (This post was inspired by Subourbia… link at the bottom).
These photos pretty much say it all… CYPB $900… M20 $4k… OWA $150… ETL $200… Stagg Jr $150… Pappy 23 $5k… but… low and behold, the new Little Book is only $110… but THH is $630….
Located at 111 Lexington in New York City, Wine & Liquors is just one of the most obnoxious liquor stores I’ve been to in a while and the staff are equally obnoxious.
I work in New York City and occasionally will look for Bourbon on the secondary market in the area so no shipping is needed. I’ve built a decent network of people that drink, collect and trade; they share the passion and I trust them. I saw an ad on Craigslist for some very old bottles of George T Stagg. I haven’t seen these Buffalo Trace Antique Collection bottles pop up on the secondary for a while, I don’t have them and I wanted them. I was hesitant, but really interested, so I emailed the person for additional photos. This is what the person sent:
It bothered me that there were a lot of empties in the background. Was this person refilling them? Was he just a collector of empty bottles they drank? I don’t know… I actually keep all my BTAC empties too, and I have a shelf I call my graveyard that all the epic bottles I have drank over the year stay. I decided to give this person the benefit of the doubt and just ask them why there were so many empties around and if he could send me photos of the laser code.
The person, who claimed to be an avid drinker of BTAC and Handy send me a photo of the UPC symbol on the back, saying that was the only code they knew of. They also claimed to make lamps out of the empty bottles. The lamp thing I can see, but I don’t know anyone who has a huge collector of BTAC that doesn’t know about the laser codes–that’s pretty much common knowledge for everyone who trades them. This was a huge red flag to me that required further inquiry.
I told the person that I was still interested in purchasing the bottles, but expressed my concern about them given all the empties in the background, referencing that there have been known to have fakes/refills going around. If he was a legit seller he would have come back to me and understood my concern, and willing to talk to me, provided references, etc. Instead he went on an expletive rant, accused me of being a personal ad craigslist troll, and then deleted the ad. I guess he was upset that I caught him in a fraud.
The moral of the story is that if you think something smells fishy, ask a few questions and most likely if it is a fraud, it will unravel. Or if you are smarter than me, just stay away to begin with and only trade/sell with trusted/verified people on better websites like bottle-spot.com. Is there a small chance that this person wasn’t selling fake bottles? Yes… but then he’s just a mean person with very bad manners that isn’t worth dealing with anyway.